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		<title>Windows Ten Remote Desktop Notes</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2015 04:40:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In a test environment we came up with an odd behavior between Remote Desktop Client Apps/Programs and Windows X.  All of the boring details after a short version of what happened and how we fixed it. What happened: clients could not connect.  It would start to, prompt for credentials, show the welcome screen, then a [&#8230;]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a test environment we came up with an odd behavior between Remote Desktop Client Apps/Programs and Windows X.  All of the boring details after a short version of what happened and how we fixed it.</p>
<p><span id="more-239"></span>What happened: clients could not connect.  It would start to, prompt for credentials, show the welcome screen, then a disconnect with a message:</p>
<blockquote><p>Your Remote Desktop session has ended.</p>
<p>Another user connected to the remote computer, so your connection was lost. Try connecting again, or contact your network administrator or technical support group.</p></blockquote>
<p>The only way around it was to physically &#8220;Sign out&#8221; at the hardware.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.computermedic.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/2015_0815_WinX_RDP_1.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-240" src="http://www.computermedic.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/2015_0815_WinX_RDP_1-263x300.jpg" alt="2015_0815_WinX_RDP_1" width="263" height="300" /></a>The fix: add a password to the account (see the notes below) and enable the &#8220;Allow only&#8230;NLA&#8221; (picture) option in the remote desktop settings.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><strong>How this all happened&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>First: not a very well used Windows 8 &#8220;test&#8221; computer.  When we set it up originally we didn&#8217;t put a password on it.  We must have had some old Macs or XP boxes that we tried to connect RDP clients from, so had un-checked the &#8220;Allow connections only&#8230;&#8221; option in the Remote tab.</p>
<p>2nd: No &#8220;pre-release&#8221; Windows X stuff.  On July 29, 2015 we had to update this computer to 8.1 before upgrading to X.  The 8.1 and the X (Ten/10) installers did not mention exactly how important a password is to these newest systems.  A little online searching tells us that it&#8217;s not Microsoft&#8217;s fault, not too many people seem to have this exact series of mistakes/user errors.</p>
<p>Finally: we ended up with a Windows X (Pro) computer with RDC (the new name for RDP) enabled, old un-secure clients allowed, and no &#8220;only user&#8221; account password.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><strong>How this all got fixed&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>First: After reading too many online posts and pages about RDP (RDC) in general we saw &#8220;a couple&#8221; of mentions about that &#8220;Allow connections only&#8230;&#8221; checkbox.  Went to see what was up: un-checked.  Put a check-mark in there and tried again&#8230;</p>
<p>Second: Secure connections require minimally secure computers (user account needs a password).  When we tried to connect this time we got a &#8220;Cannot connect&#8221; error stating that &#8220;&#8230;the password is expired&#8230; &#8230;or&#8230;&#8221; (about 3 total possibilities that we didn&#8217;t screenshot).  We knew there was no password so it wasn&#8217;t &#8220;expired.&#8221;  Back to the hardware, set a password on the user account, Sign out, Sign in&#8230;</p>
<p>Finally:  Add the new password to the RDP (RDC) client connection dialogue and everything works fine.  RD Client connected, console user was Signed out.</p>
<p>This was a very &#8220;anomalous behavior incident&#8221; but if we could do it someone else probably could as well.  So, now it&#8217;s documented.</p>
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		<title>Windows Ten Can Do POP eMail</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2015 18:19:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Windows Ten&#8217;s &#8220;Trusted Mail App&#8221; ~ Can ~ do POP e-Mail It works.  That&#8217;s all we can say.  It is difficult to set up and it is slow once it is set up.  It &#8220;can&#8221; do it, so here&#8217;s how you &#8220;can&#8221; make it do it. We only tested from a &#8220;clean&#8221; install of Windows [&#8230;]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img class="alignright size-full wp-image-216" src="http://www.computermedic.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/windows10logoforCMI.png" alt="windows10logoforCMI" width="100" height="66" />Windows Ten&#8217;s &#8220;Trusted Mail App&#8221; ~ Can ~ do POP e-Mail</p>
<p>It works.  That&#8217;s all we can say.  It is difficult to set up and it is slow once it is set up.  It &#8220;can&#8221; do it, so here&#8217;s how you &#8220;can&#8221; make it do it.</p>
<p><span id="more-220"></span>We only tested from a &#8220;clean&#8221; install of Windows Ten (10, X).  The first time run of mail starts a &#8220;First Time&#8221; or &#8220;Out Of Box&#8221; experience that you will only ever see the real &#8220;first time.&#8221;  If you add an account and then delete it, Mail App then loads with an &#8220;empty&#8221; workspace and everything has to be done manually.  Throughout this post we use &#8220;click&#8221; to mean tap or click.</p>
<p>Here are the steps we followed &#8211; screenshots follow in order:</p>
<ol>
<li>Click inside the &#8220;Search Area / Address Bar&#8221; (next to the &#8220;Start/Windows Logo&#8221;) and type &#8220;mail&#8221;. Click &#8220;Mail &#8211; Trusted Windows Store app&#8221; at the top of the menu/search results.</li>
<li>Click on &#8220;+ Add account&#8221; on the &#8220;First Time/Let&#8217;s Get Started&#8221; screen</li>
<li>Click on &#8220;Other account &#8211; POP, IMAP&#8221;</li>
<li>Put in your full email address and password. Click the &#8220;Sign-in&#8221; button.<br />
Note: <strong>make sure your password is correct</strong>, it is very important to not causing syncing errors and extremely long delays when finished.</li>
<li>The first time &#8211; after a pretty long delay &#8211; you will get a message that says: We couldn&#8217;t find info for that account. Make sure the email address is correct and try again.  <strong>Click the &#8220;Sign-in&#8221; button two-to-three more times until &#8220;Sign-in&#8221; changes to &#8220;Advanced&#8221;</strong>. (5th image)</li>
<li>Click &#8220;Advanced&#8221; to get to the scrolling &#8220;Internet email account&#8221; screen.</li>
<li>Give your account a name (this is what it be called &#8220;locally&#8221;).</li>
<li>Enter &#8220;Your name&#8221; (this is what you want to appear when people receive email from you).</li>
<li>&#8220;Incoming email server&#8221; should be your domain name (everything after the @ in your email address) or mail.yourdomainname.ext[ention]  (the mail. is optional)</li>
<li>Change the &#8220;Account type&#8221; from IMAP to <strong>POP3</strong></li>
<li>Scroll down until you see &#8220;Username&#8221; and &#8220;Password&#8221; (those should be there) and &#8220;Outgoing (SMTP) email server&#8221;.  Your outgoing server is the same as your incoming server.  You can use the domain name only (everything after the @ in your email address) or the optional mail. prefix plus your domain name.</li>
<li>Scroll down to the bottom and take the check-marks out of the &#8220;Require SSL&#8221; (incoming and outgoing) boxes.  Leave the top two check-marks in place.  See: Picture 8.</li>
<li>Click on &#8220;Sign-in&#8221; and you will be returned to the &#8220;First things first&#8230;&#8221; screen.</li>
<li>Click on &#8220;Ready to go&#8221; (picture 9) and&#8230;</li>
<li>Your first &#8220;big problem and delay&#8221; appears.  It took almost 20 minutes for our test computer to &#8220;time out&#8221; and give us the &#8220;Your account settings are out of date&#8221; alert/notification. There is nothing you can do but wait it out.  Once the alert appears with the [Fix Account] and [Dismiss] buttons, click on Fix Account.  (Picture 10)</li>
<li>Fixing the account consists of clicking the &#8220;Continue&#8221; button on the &#8220;Untrusted certificate&#8221; screen.  (Picture 11)  If you click cancel nothing will work and you&#8217;ll have to figure out how to delete the account and start over without the &#8220;First things first&#8221; screen.</li>
<li>Finally, here is the importance of that password (back at step 4).  We &#8211; on purpose &#8211; entered it incorrectly to &#8220;see what happens.&#8221;  BOOM! That&#8217;s what happens.  Another 20+ minutes for the timeout on the incoming server, then again (total 40+ minutes) for the outgoing server&#8217;s timeout.  In the meantime we got &#8220;blocked&#8221; from the mail server for &#8220;Too many failed AUTH attempts&#8221;.  During that 20 minutes of &#8220;Still working on it&#8230;&#8221; the &#8220;Mail app&#8221; was trying to log in hundreds of times per second with the wrong password.  After just over 40 minutes we got another Alert/Notification that &#8220;Your account settings are out of date&#8221;.  Fix this time was entering the correct password.  Once done, the &#8220;Inbox&#8221; sync-ed almost instantly, then 20 more minutes and the same &#8220;block&#8221; from the server because &#8220;Mail app&#8221; did not &#8220;fix&#8221; incoming and outgoing servers the first time.  Alert again, fix again (this time we dismissed it and manually fixed it by clicking the &#8220;gear&#8221; icon and going to the Account Settings). Somewhere around one hour and forty-five minutes later, mail sent and received.</li>
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<p>Of other note: The &#8220;Mail app&#8221; does not appear to delete the mail from the server.  This is good &#8211; and &#8211; bad.  It&#8217;s good if you have multiple devices checking the same account.  It&#8217;s bad if you delete mail from the server from your other devices.  The &#8220;re-sync-ing&#8221; of mail that is the Inbox of &#8220;Mail app&#8221; and no longer at the server is a very, very, very long and slow process.  We only had one message, removed it from the server via webmail, it took &#8220;Mail app&#8221; 7 minutes to &#8220;sync&#8221; (remove the one message from Inbox and do whatever background database or file &#8220;magic&#8221; it does during &#8220;Still working on it&#8230;&#8221;).</p>
<p>So, there it is, the pictures are next, and here is one more recommendation/reminder from us:  You can use the &#8220;Mail app&#8221; in Windows Ten (10, X) for your ComputerMedic.org hosted email (POP3/SMTP) &#8211; it is a lot easier to use a 3rd party app (or program) like Mozilla&#8217;s Thunderbird. ( <a href="https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/" target="_blank">https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/</a> )</p>
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